Order of examples:
- Specific to General, General to Specific
- Specific to General
- Seek to Address Concerns
>>> Example Specific to General, General to Specific
- I propose buying orange ice cream in a group of 7
5 people say yes
2 say no
Those who said yes, say works for fun, taste, ease
Those who said no, say does not work for fun, taste, ease
– heard no, go more general, Tom proposes buying ice cream
6 yes
1 no
Those who said yes, say works for fun, ease, community
Those who said no, say does not work for comfort, inclusion, have lactose intolerance
– heard “no” go more general, Sally proposes buying food ?
7 yes
0 no
Those who said yes, say works fun, ease, community, inclusion
– hear all “yes”, go more specific, Eric proposes buying coconut ice cream
7 yes
0 no
yes answers – fun, community, comfort - has no dairy
>>> Example of Specific to General
buy orange ice cream - Jay
buy ice cream - jack, jill
buy snack food - peter, sally
none of the above – albert
people's written or verbal responses:
albert – don't want to leave house, too tired, want ease
jay – orange is my favorite flavor, fun
sally – have lactose intolerance, want comfort
peter – want to support sally, want something she can eat
Summary - It is clear that 5 people agree with snack food. Disagreement starts happening as you get more specific
Maybe, Albert wants to do something different than everyone else or maybe a snack food that is easy to get and is dairy free and fun is what will work for everyone.
------------ another example
1 - buy neighbor george’s land
2 - buy a neighbor’s land, touching our property, signed names are jill, jack, sally, george, carl
3 - buy a land nearby, signed names are brian, parsel
4 - buy land, signed names are rachel, raven
5 – none, signed names are john, bill, sandra
written and or spoken:
rachel – great way to protect our money, efficiency and effectiveness
parsel – great way to have options, choice and flexibility
bill – very expensive, we pay taxes every year, not efficiency use of money
sandra – creates more work to maintain and liabilities, have aging membership, want ease
jack – ease, land touches ours, no for that neighbor because it is a swamp, not useful, want something useful
george – price for neighbor George land is far to high, wants take care of ourselves, not get ripped off
carl – no for neighbor George land because want to support my friend, he is putting a down payment down on that land tomorrow, he wants to make it a land trust, so it can't be built on, care of earth, yes for other land touching our property because within easy reach
Summary - this tells me there is support for buying land. There is much disagreement over where to buy land.
>>> Seeking to Address Concerns:
Name of person starting thread - Janeway
seek/want - more efficient use of group money and ease for money manager, less to manage
Proposal - cancel 5831 phone line, use money spent on 5831 phone line to buy ice cream for house
clarifying comment and imperfections - lack of backup for remaining land line, resolve imperfection by asking to use other people's cell phone
likes - Tom, Charles, Sally, Sue, Harry
Responses:
----- first post by Rassa -----
previous proposal works – efficient use of financial resources, socializing, fun
seek to address – harmony in house, fear fights over which flavor to buy
efficient use of time, concern over amount of meeting time working out details
proposal – have house walks and board game night, let 5831 savings sit in bank account
clarifying comment and imperfections – takes time to organize
likes – Nelix, Romey
----- next post by Charles -----
works – fun, connection
seek to address – lack of clarity how will happen
proposal- create role of connection coordinator, role is to survey what times work best for walk, set time, and do survey to find out which games people want available for game night and get top games
clarifying comment and imperfections - someone has to take time to figure it out
likes – Harry, Romeo
----- next post by Harry -----
works – clarity who organizes, how will happen
seek to address – takes up group time because creates role for group to organize, no clarity around what to do with savings from canceling 5831 phone line, reducing monthly expenses to prevent rent increase
proposal - cancel 5831 phone line, reduce monthly expenses
clarifying comment and imperfections – no group activity
likes - Tom, Charles, Sally, Sue, Harry, Janeway, Brian, Katherin, Harriet, Jolly, ike, billy, April
----- next post by Nelix -----
works – financial security thru increasing savings, reduces monthly expenses
seek to address – fun
proposal - cancel 5831 phone line, use half savings to buy popcorn (limit $5), remainder to use for building financial savings
clarifying comment and imperfections – someone has to take time to buy the popcorn
likes -
----- Another example:
Name of person starting thread - Janeway
seek/want - increases flexibility and ease for cooking dinner,
Proposal – increase day cook budget by $5
clarifying comment and imperfections –want more spices for taste so meal are more fun, does increase expenses, increase might be small, not every cook will spend an additional $5 every time
likes - Tom, Charles, Sally, Sue, Harry
Responses:
----- first post by Hue -----
works – increases flexibility for cook
seek to address – reduce the increase in monthly operating expenses
proposal – increase day cook budget by $5, every other cook cycle
clarifying comment and imperfections – remembering which cycles have increase complexity, confusion
likes -
----- next post by Charles -----
works – increases flexibility
seek to address – too complicated, want simplicity
proposal – increase food budget by $100 per month
clarifying comment and imperfections – requires more communication between cooks and shoppers and shoppers need more money to buy food that cooks request
likes – Harry, Beatrice
----- next post by Janeway -----
works – increases options for cooks
seek to address – too complicated, involves more than one person in getting a small thing, involves coordinating with shoppers
proposal – increase day cook budget by $2.50
clarifying comment and imperfections - reduces my initial increase to reduce costs
likes - Tom, Charles, Sally, Sue, Harry
----- next post by Charles -----
works – simplicity, consistency
seek to address – too little choice, flexibility for day cook
proposal – increase day cook budget by $5, cancel sunrise newspaper subscription
clarifying comment and imperfections – cancel sunrise covers $5 increase, resulting in no increase in monthly expenses
likes - Tom, Charles, Sally, Sue, Harry, Beatrice, Alice, Richard,
----- next post by Hue -----
works – eliminates increase in overall spending, seeks to balance budget
seek to address – reduces awareness of local events, community events
proposal – maintain Sunrise newspaper subscription, increase day cook budget by $4, ask for voluntary increase in rents
clarifying comment and imperfections – adds variety to what people pay, adds complications, believe enough people are willing and able to pay more to cover cost of $4 increase
likes -
----- next post by Janeway -----
works – maintain awareness of local events, seek to address balance different income level of house members
seek to address – house harmony due to conflict over who pays how much, change in philosophy around rent payment resulting in hours of house meeting time
proposal – increase day cook budget by $5, sign up for online national new magazine and cancel paper version
clarifying comment and imperfections - able to access info thru magazine website, much cheaper, expect reduce expense will cover cost of day cook increase
likes - Tom, Charles, Sally, Sue, Harry, Beatrice, Alice, Richard, Arwen, Kathy, Jolly